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	<title>Comments on: Why HISD teacher bonuses are a bad idea</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.blogofstupidity.com/archive/2006/01/24/why-hisd-teacher-bonuses-are-a-bad-idea/213.html#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree that there are cases like you point out.  For that matter, I 
can't really argue against someone who held the position that you have.  No 
doubt you have seen the inside of school finance more intimately than most.

My point was that better funded schools tend to be in wealthier areas; with 
exceptions of course.  Wealthier parents tend to have more time and money to 
spend on their children's education.  Parents with money have the "luxury" of 
not having to decide between working overtime to keep their children fed and 
staying home and helping with homework.  These parents are also more likely to 
have college educations and see the value of their children receiving a college 
education, which causes an increased level of importance on the education 
itself.  This falls into the culture and home life that you pointed out.

My feeling is that schools are failing because they have an effective monopoly 
on education.  The school a student goes to is generally dictated by geography.  
Were schools forced to compete on quality rather than simply have students 
"given" to them I believe that our education system would be forced to improve.  
Although that does beg the counter argument that schools would then also be 
competing to get the "best" students which would leave the children behind even 
moreso.  No Child Left Behind is an argument that I'll leave for another time - 
for now I'll just say I disagree with it.

Thank you for your comments.  This site was set up as a humor site and it is 
rare that I get to actually stand up on a soapbox for things I feel strongly 
about.   But the failure of our education system is certainly something I feel 
strongly about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree that there are cases like you point out.  For that matter, I<br />
can&#8217;t really argue against someone who held the position that you have.  No<br />
doubt you have seen the inside of school finance more intimately than most.</p>
<p>My point was that better funded schools tend to be in wealthier areas; with<br />
exceptions of course.  Wealthier parents tend to have more time and money to<br />
spend on their children&#8217;s education.  Parents with money have the &#8220;luxury&#8221; of<br />
not having to decide between working overtime to keep their children fed and<br />
staying home and helping with homework.  These parents are also more likely to<br />
have college educations and see the value of their children receiving a college<br />
education, which causes an increased level of importance on the education<br />
itself.  This falls into the culture and home life that you pointed out.</p>
<p>My feeling is that schools are failing because they have an effective monopoly<br />
on education.  The school a student goes to is generally dictated by geography.<br />
Were schools forced to compete on quality rather than simply have students<br />
&#8220;given&#8221; to them I believe that our education system would be forced to improve.<br />
Although that does beg the counter argument that schools would then also be<br />
competing to get the &#8220;best&#8221; students which would leave the children behind even<br />
moreso.  No Child Left Behind is an argument that I&#8217;ll leave for another time -<br />
for now I&#8217;ll just say I disagree with it.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  This site was set up as a humor site and it is<br />
rare that I get to actually stand up on a soapbox for things I feel strongly<br />
about.   But the failure of our education system is certainly something I feel<br />
strongly about.</p>
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		<title>By: charles vaughn</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree excepty for one point: That performance is a result of how schools are funded. The facts show different.  I was Controller at Port Arthur ISD which had a good industrial tax base, certainly not a poor district, but poor test scores.  Houston ISD and Dallas ISD are relatively well off Districts yet scores are poor.  In Houston ISD the highest funded high schools are among the poor performers and the lowest funded (white) are the among the best performers.  The famous or infamous Edgewood ISD has been funded richly for two decades yet scores are very poor.  Funding has never had anything to do with education success.  Culture and home life do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree excepty for one point: That performance is a result of how schools are funded. The facts show different.  I was Controller at Port Arthur ISD which had a good industrial tax base, certainly not a poor district, but poor test scores.  Houston ISD and Dallas ISD are relatively well off Districts yet scores are poor.  In Houston ISD the highest funded high schools are among the poor performers and the lowest funded (white) are the among the best performers.  The famous or infamous Edgewood ISD has been funded richly for two decades yet scores are very poor.  Funding has never had anything to do with education success.  Culture and home life do.</p>
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